So there is outrage today after a Billboard in Melbourne advertising an Australia Day event featured two Muslim women.
Cue Gasps.
I wonder if the people outraged are the same people with ‘Love it or Leave it’ bumper stickers on their car.
Clearly these two young ladies are loving it…so how about we all calm down.
Australia has freedom of religion and that is one of the things that makes it great. If I as a Christian enjoy freedom of religion then by it’s very definition I must celebrate the freedom others have to choose theirs. (And I also have the freedom to tell them about Jesus). The fact that these two women are celebrating Australia Day is awesome. We want people who come from other lands to assimilate into our culture and love the Aussie way of life.
The problem comes when people come into Australia and want to change our way of life.
This ad and these two ladies are the very opposite of this.
I would invite them to my Lamb BBQ on January 26th.
Anyway, that’s what I think,
Peter Pilt
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Have to disagree this time Peter. Islam is an evil ideology and those little girls are trapped. The hijab is a sign of their slavery.
That’s ok
So Robyn, you would also say the same about every ‘Beer’ advertisement that is so dominant in our culture?
The issue I have with this matter is that it is not inclusive. To be effective and demonstrate equality, there should be people of other races/cultures included on the billboard especially Australia’s indigenous people. As it is, it seems to be designed to get a ‘hot’ reaction.
Well said!!!
“Australia has freedom of religion and that is one of the things that makes it great.”
But what do people think that means Peter?
Let me start by suggesting that Australia has nothing except what God allows it to have. It is not autonomous, it is not independent of God.
So, if people think freedom of religion mean that in Australia we can worship God how we wish, within the religious denomination we wish, then yes that IMO is good. But if they think it means that we can worship any god we wish, then that is evil, and IMO, tantamount to a denial of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
One of the things wrong with the message presented by the Church today Peter is that people can get the idea they have some sort of choice when it comes to God. Well they haven’t. Man has a responsibility to worship the One who created him and if he doesn’t then He will punish him. It’s not a “you can if you want to”, it’s a “you will or you’ll go to hell where God’s wrath will be upon you causing you unbearable pain and suffering for eternity” (and that is where these two girls, as portrayed, are heading).
P.S. And Peter, unless you know them personally, I think it’s a massive leap of faith to suggest that these two models actually, definitely, “are celebrating Australia Day”, are allowed to “assimilate into our culture” (which, given their head covering, there’s an implication they’re not), and don’t “want to change our way of life”.
Adrian, Freedom of Religion is a legislated right. I would love for everyone to be Christian…God would love for everyone to be a Christian….But He put two trees in the Garden for choice. Why? So we could choose. Choice is actually what defines us as human. The angels are minister spirits and therefore don’t appear to have choice…..Now theologically explain how a third of the angels followed Lucifer….That’s a conundrum.
What if God still has two trees in the Garden. One leads to eternal life and the other to death? Is God wrong Adrian?
For the record the kids in the pic were actually snapped at an Australia Day Event last year.
“Adrian, Freedom of Religion is a legislated right”.
– Show me that in the Bible Peter. Would the argument that under Australian Law we have some sort of freedom of religion (see below *) carry any weight when Jesus says “depart from me you cursed”. I don’t think so. The Apostle Paul’s preaching was “under compulsion” and he suffered for it, so I doubt if he’d have time for people’s claims to “freedom of religion” either.
“But He put two trees in the Garden for choice”.
– Again show me where in the Bible God told Adam to choose between the two. I only see God telling Adam not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. In fact Adam was cast out of the garden “lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever” so he could still eat of it after he ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And we will eat of the tree of life in heaven (Rev 22).
“Choice is actually what defines us as human”.
– My daughter might suggest that my fur grand-child makes choices and I’d have to agree.
“The angels are minister spirits and therefore don’t appear to have choice…..Now theologically explain how a third of the angels followed Lucifer….That’s a conundrum”.
– The Bible doesn’t say that they didn’t/ haven’t the ability to make choices, in fact there are verses that imply they do. We see in Job 1 that Satan appears in heaven from “going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it” (that implies choice) and later is told “Behold, all that he has is in your power; only do not lay a hand on his person” which again implies that Satan can choose what to do with Job. Another example is when Daniel prayed and an angel was sent “But the prince of the kingdom of Persia was withstanding me for twenty-one days; then behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me”. One being somehow delaying another by three weeks then another coming to help speaks of choices to me.
“the kids in the pic were actually snapped at an Australia Day Event last year”
– thanks, that answers one part of the three part question.
God bless,
…adg
P.S. “Choice is actually what defines us as human”.
We know we’re correct when we say that people can make choices. However it seems to me that our society (and unfortunately at times the Church) is so focused on our ability to make choices that it forgets that we have a responsibility before God to make the correct choices and that we won’t unless we’re taught the difference between right and wrong.
Topics like this cause me to “bite” and unless God specifically says something one way or another I can choose to respond or not. What I *can* also do is choose how civil my response is. But what I *may* not choose to do is be uncivil or intentionally offensive, because that is sin.
When there are alternatives and one is sinful then that is not a choice we have as it’s forbidden. I don’t think everyone understands that concept.
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* Section 116 of our constitution has four limbs saying “The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth”. Only “establishing any religion” and “imposing any religious observance” have been tested in court.
Peter, recently the P.M. made a statement about Islam, along the lines that we have to learn more about it and accept it’ or words to that effect. I believe you are truly gullible if you think this is an innocent stunt. As Christians we are called to love all people but certainly not to embrace their ungodliness. This billboard would have been much more acceptable had it shown a group of women of diverse background with one or two Islamic women in the group. What it is conveying in its current format, is an embracing of Islam, which I and many other Australians reject.
And importantly which God rejects too Alan.
Good point Adrian.
Alan I do agree with you. However I guess my motive for the blog was the whole Love it or Leave it campaign has been such a strong thing and here are two Muslim girls who for all we know are home grown Aussies celebrating Australia Day. Isn’t that what we are asking of Muslims? To Assimilate?
I get the concerns re Shaira Law and Islam and I have written a number of blogs about Islam and Terrorism. I also often make the cynical comment in my Morning News Wrap….oh that’s right Islam is a religion of peace.
On a side note. Where do you Pastor? What Denomination? And lets do a coffee.
Hi Peter. I am a missionary on the Thai/Myanmar (Burma) border. I came over here about five years ago, at the Lord’s direction, to commence a training centre for those called of God to do church planting. We are called Kingdom Mission Training Centre: http://www.kingdommission.int.com (not usually kept up-to-date) I am not attached to any particular denomination but lecturers come from the Apostolics, A.O.G., Baptists, Methodists etc.. (Australia, Britain, America, Myanmar, Thailand….)
We are only small but have a vision to plant 1,000 churches in the next ten years. Most of our students are from Myanmar, one from Pakistan, but are now seeking to enlist them from Thailand and Laos. Recently we have been going across the Mekong into Laos and making contacts there. We are twenty minutes from the Mekong River. Our vision really is all ASEAN countries.
I should be back in Australia within the next couple of months as I am wanting to do a term’s teaching (secondary) as we are mainly self funded and need finance for our outreaches. If you give me your contact details I will get in touch and would love to meet with you.
God bless
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